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Alan Baggett
2015-01-06 13:26:23 UTC
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Tax reform paper recommends higher rate for top incomes, flat tax for investments: CRA SOTW

Report calls for higher tax rates on highest income earners
CBC News

Income from all investments should be taxed at a flat rate and tax rates on the highest income earners should be increased, a wide-reaching report on tax reform says.

Income is currently taxed progressively in Canada. That means that the more you make, the higher your tax rate is on each additional dollar of income. There are now four main federal tax brackets, with marginal rates that rise with each income bracket

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The report, published by the C.D. Howe think-tank, says one of the problems that's increasingly apparent is that it's becoming easier for the wealthiest Canadians to respond to higher tax rates with manoeuvres that lower the amount of income subject to those higher rates.

The author argues that Canada's tax system need to be reworked to reflect the global reality. The main problem, according to the report, is that the benefits of recent tax reforms, such as reductions to corporate taxes, have tended to go to those with the highest incomes.

Rather than reversing corporate tax cuts, which the report says enhance growth, the government should consider reforming the entire income tax system - specifically, by bringing in a dual income tax structure.

Dual tax system

The report recommends that wages continue to be taxes progressively, but investments should be taxed at a low, uniform rate -- a flat tax.

As part of the reform process, the report suggests that the tax treatment of stock options be tightened. It notes that stock options, which make up a large part of the compensation packages for many executives, now get special tax treatment. The report urges that stock options be treated like other labour compensation, such as wages, and to tax them at full rates as soon as practical.

Ottawa should then transform the Canadian tax system to a dual tax system, it recommends. Under this scenario, Canada would move to a flat tax rate on all forms of capital income, including interest and other investment income.

The report also calls for higher taxes on high income earners. Currently, the highest federal tax bracket - 29 per cent - kicks in at income of $136,270. It suggests a higher bracket of 32 per cent for employment income above $250,000 and 35 per cent above $400,000.

This attempt to "clean up" the tax system would also require an end to some boutique tax breaks, like the children's fitness tax credit, the public transit tax credit and the volunteer firefighters' amount.

"It goes without saying that fitness, transit and firefighting are admirable things, but loading the tax system with such measures enhances neither efficiency nor fairness," says the report. "If these and other things are worthy of support,
policymakers could find a way to do so outside the tax system."

It is a call for a major rethink in the way Canada taxes income, but the report's author says it's worth it.

"Enacting these reforms would bring two large benefits to the Canadian economy and society," says UBC economics professor Kevin Milligan.

"It would restore the ability of the tax system to respond to increasing income concentration by taxing more those whose incomes have grown the most," he writes.

"This, in turn, would open the door to beneficial reforms of consumption taxes, environmental taxes and corporate taxes that might otherwise remain closed because of concerns about who benefits most from economic growth."

Milligan's report was published by the C.D. Howe Institute in partnership with the Chartered Professional Accountants of Canada. But both groups say the report is meant to stimulate discussion and is not the official position of either organization.


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Sharx35
2015-01-07 03:35:55 UTC
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"Alan Baggett" wrote in message news:731a0f03-9baa-4baa-8133-***@googlegroups.com...

Tax reform paper recommends higher rate for top incomes, flat tax for
investments: CRA SOTW
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A flat tax on all investment income? That guy is fucking nuts. Why should I,
a retired pensioner with under $40K a year in family income, pay the same
tax on my non-registered investments as a multi-millionaire?

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Report calls for higher tax rates on highest income earners
CBC News

Income from all investments should be taxed at a flat rate and tax rates on
the highest income earners should be increased, a wide-reaching report on
tax reform says.

Income is currently taxed progressively in Canada. That means that the more
you make, the higher your tax rate is on each additional dollar of income.
There are now four main federal tax brackets, with marginal rates that rise
with each income bracket

TFSAs will lead to 'welfare' for the wealthy, government warned
CHART: Income splitting and the 'family tax cut'
The report, published by the C.D. Howe think-tank, says one of the problems
that's increasingly apparent is that it's becoming easier for the wealthiest
Canadians to respond to higher tax rates with manoeuvres that lower the
amount of income subject to those higher rates.

The author argues that Canada's tax system need to be reworked to reflect
the global reality. The main problem, according to the report, is that the
benefits of recent tax reforms, such as reductions to corporate taxes, have
tended to go to those with the highest incomes.

Rather than reversing corporate tax cuts, which the report says enhance
growth, the government should consider reforming the entire income tax
system - specifically, by bringing in a dual income tax structure.

Dual tax system

The report recommends that wages continue to be taxes progressively, but
investments should be taxed at a low, uniform rate -- a flat tax.

As part of the reform process, the report suggests that the tax treatment of
stock options be tightened. It notes that stock options, which make up a
large part of the compensation packages for many executives, now get special
tax treatment. The report urges that stock options be treated like other
labour compensation, such as wages, and to tax them at full rates as soon as
practical.

Ottawa should then transform the Canadian tax system to a dual tax system,
it recommends. Under this scenario, Canada would move to a flat tax rate on
all forms of capital income, including interest and other investment income.

The report also calls for higher taxes on high income earners. Currently,
the highest federal tax bracket - 29 per cent - kicks in at income of
$136,270. It suggests a higher bracket of 32 per cent for employment income
above $250,000 and 35 per cent above $400,000.

This attempt to "clean up" the tax system would also require an end to some
boutique tax breaks, like the children's fitness tax credit, the public
transit tax credit and the volunteer firefighters' amount.

"It goes without saying that fitness, transit and firefighting are admirable
things, but loading the tax system with such measures enhances neither
efficiency nor fairness," says the report. "If these and other things are
worthy of support,
policymakers could find a way to do so outside the tax system."

It is a call for a major rethink in the way Canada taxes income, but the
report's author says it's worth it.

"Enacting these reforms would bring two large benefits to the Canadian
economy and society," says UBC economics professor Kevin Milligan.

"It would restore the ability of the tax system to respond to increasing
income concentration by taxing more those whose incomes have grown the
most," he writes.

"This, in turn, would open the door to beneficial reforms of consumption
taxes, environmental taxes and corporate taxes that might otherwise remain
closed because of concerns about who benefits most from economic growth."

Milligan's report was published by the C.D. Howe Institute in partnership
with the Chartered Professional Accountants of Canada. But both groups say
the report is meant to stimulate discussion and is not the official position
of either organization.


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Miss a Tax Tale Miss a lot!
Visit the CRA SOTW Library at http://canada.revenue.agency.angelfire.com

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Alan Bowler
2015-01-07 18:08:41 UTC
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Post by Sharx35
Post by Alan Baggett
Tax reform paper recommends higher rate for top incomes,
flat tax for investments: CRA SOTW
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A flat tax on all investment income? That guy is fucking nuts.
Why should I, a retired pensioner with under $40K a year in family
income, pay the same tax on my non-registered investments as a
multi-millionaire?
No he is not nuts. Just remember what the C.D. Howe Institute is.
In spite of being named for after famous Liberal, is it just
a lobby group for those multi-millionaires.

C.D. Howe must be rolling in the grave over the abuse of his name.
JCannuck
2015-07-07 18:23:30 UTC
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It is well known that flat taxes benefit the rich and not the poor. Former MP, Dennis Mills was trying to persuade government officials when he was in office to adopt a flat tax when he was in office. They weren't convinced.
Sharx35
2015-07-08 02:53:57 UTC
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"JCannuck" wrote in message news:91a95a89-4279-49da-a7e6-***@googlegroups.com...

It is well known that flat taxes benefit the rich and not the poor. Former
MP, Dennis Mills was trying to persuade government officials when he was in
office to adopt a flat tax when he was in office. They weren't convinced.
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You are correct. It always surprised me how many of my middle-income tax
clients bought into the flat tax bullshit. Some actually claimed that we
accountants objected to it because it would reduce the number of potential
clients who needed help with their taxes.
Alan Bowler
2015-07-08 15:40:21 UTC
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Post by JCannuck
It is well known that flat taxes benefit the rich and not the poor. Former MP, Dennis Mills was
trying to persuade government officials when he was in office to adopt a flat tax when he was in
office. They weren't convinced.
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You are correct. It always surprised me how many of my middle-income tax clients bought into the
flat tax bullshit. Some actually claimed that we accountants objected to it because it would reduce
the number of potential clients who needed help with their taxes.
The less paperwork argument never made any sense.
The bulk of calculations in a tax filing are those to detemine
what the actual income to be taxed is. None of those is
affected by a so-called "flat" tax.

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